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by X-member
Thu 31 May 2012 18:10
Forum: Lyme Café
Topic: LNE definitions of late and chronic Lyme disease
Replies: 98
Views: 17388

Re: LNE definitions of late and chronic Lyme disease

Spanky wrote: What seems ironic about this...is it doesn't seem to me that anyone here even uses the term "late stage"...except, perhaps, very infrequently...save, one particular poster. This has been a problem in this forum, and I give you one example from another topic: A quote: I have trouble dis...
by X-member
Thu 31 May 2012 17:01
Forum: Lyme Café
Topic: LNE definitions of late and chronic Lyme disease
Replies: 98
Views: 17388

Re: LNE definitions of late and chronic Lyme disease

Martian: Think of the consequences this has. Imagine a patient in Europe that has suspicion of having contracted Lyme disease a few years ago (let's say the patient remembers an EM-like rash after a tick bite, has gotten various symptoms in the years afterwards, and the patient was never treated), a...
by X-member
Thu 31 May 2012 15:59
Forum: Lyme Café
Topic: LNE definitions of late and chronic Lyme disease
Replies: 98
Views: 17388

Re: LNE definitions of late and chronic Lyme disease

I am talking to those people in Europe that have got this European diagnosis from their European physician.

They (and other physicians that they meet) need to know that the Klempner studies are not on late Lyme disease.
by X-member
Thu 31 May 2012 15:21
Forum: Lyme Café
Topic: LNE definitions of late and chronic Lyme disease
Replies: 98
Views: 17388

Re: LNE definitions of late and chronic Lyme disease

Henry: PTLDS and "chronic Lyme disease " mean the same thing to me Thank you! Now everyone (I hope) understand that the Klempner studies are on cases with PTLDS (after early treatment) and NOT on cases with chronic (or late) Lyme borreliosis . Edit to add: I really do hope that European physicians r...
by X-member
Thu 31 May 2012 4:27
Forum: Lyme Café
Topic: Praises and complaints
Replies: 108
Views: 11608

Re: My "visit" in this forum didn't give me anything!

Martian:
It gave you sleepless nights, I guess...
Not me (I am a night owl), but maybe you, Martian?

I can change the name of this topic, to something else if you like?
by X-member
Thu 31 May 2012 4:10
Forum: Lyme Café
Topic: LNE definitions of late and chronic Lyme disease
Replies: 98
Views: 17388

Re: LNE definitions of late and chronic Lyme disease

I still agree with Bagge (and CDC), I think (since so many people don't understand the medical term chronic) that we perhaps shall stop using any definition that have the word "chronic" in it. And (to answer another question asked earlier) if you still have signs of an uncured infection after treatm...
by X-member
Wed 30 May 2012 22:49
Forum: Lyme Café
Topic: LNE definitions of late and chronic Lyme disease
Replies: 98
Views: 17388

Re: LNE definitions of late and chronic Lyme disease

Spanky: I think what is getting frustrating is one particular poster who is constantly disrupting threads with the same tedious argument about the differences in terminology. This only happens when some member (s) start to talk about "chronic Lyme" (or post studies on "chronic Lyme"), in a topic (or...
by X-member
Wed 30 May 2012 22:42
Forum: Lyme Café
Topic: LNE definitions of late and chronic Lyme disease
Replies: 98
Views: 17388

Re: LNE definitions of late and chronic Lyme disease

I still agree with CDC and Bagge (and Dr MacDonald (and other educated physicians, both in Europe and in other parts of the world)).

We all have to use the correct definitions. And understand them when they are used!
by X-member
Wed 30 May 2012 22:28
Forum: Lyme Café
Topic: LNE definitions of late and chronic Lyme disease
Replies: 98
Views: 17388

Re: LNE definitions of late and chronic Lyme disease

Spanky: I typically use: "chronic Lyme"... And that is the problem, especially since people from US (many times) don't understand the European term/definition: chronic (or late) Lyme borreliosis So I still agree with CDC and Bagge (and Dr MacDonald (and other educated physicians, both in Europe and ...
by X-member
Wed 30 May 2012 21:38
Forum: Lyme Café
Topic: LNE definitions of late and chronic Lyme disease
Replies: 98
Views: 17388

Re: LNE definitions of late and chronic Lyme disease

Henry have mentioned MUS (medically unexplained symptoms):

"Medically unexplained physical symptoms"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medically_ ... l_symptoms

Often used in Sweden, BTW.