The original definition of chronic (Lyme) borreliosis

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Re: The original definition of chronic (Lyme) borreliosis

Post by X-member » Thu 27 Oct 2016 16:24

Även Nederländerna gör en dokumentärfilm om borrelia (Swedish blog)

https://newsaboutdisease.wordpress.com/ ... -borrelia/

A quote:
För närvarande behandlas borrelia i Nederländerna fortfarande efter föråldrade riktlinjer. Patienten anses botad efter en kort antibiotikakur. Därmed finns inget erkännande för kronisk borrelia, alltså ingen behandling, kompensation eller hjälp.
English translation (I now, of course since the blog is Swedish, use the the Swedish definition of chronic Lyme borreliosis):
At the moment, the Netherlands still treats Lyme disease with outdated guidelines. After a short antibiotic course, patients must be cured. Thereby, there is no acknowledgment and recognition for late Lyme patients, thus no treatment, compensation or help.
I had no idea that stage 3 (i.e. late Lyme borreliosis) was denied and not treated in the Netherlands.

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Re: The original definition of chronic (Lyme) borreliosis

Post by X-member » Wed 4 Jan 2017 21:25

The Accuracy of Diagnostic Tests for Lyme Disease in Humans, A Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis of North American Research

http://journals.plos.org/plosone/articl ... ne.0168613

A quote:
“Chronic LD” is a condition that is not recognised as being caused by B. burgdorferi by most infectious disease experts...
I think the people who wrote this should read the previous posts in this thread.

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Re: The original definition of chronic (Lyme) borreliosis

Post by X-member » Thu 2 Mar 2017 15:06

"Kronisk fästingburen borrelios" (Chronic tick-borne borreliosis)
Professor Sven Bergström (Sweden)


http://www.medfak.umu.se/digitalAssets/ ... gstrom.pdf

A quote:
Vad är då Lyme-borrelios? Svaret har att göra med vad som är kroniskt och inte kroniskt. Vi kan tala om tre steg: Det första är en lokal infektion kring fästingbettet, i nästa steg är bakterien mer spridd i kroppen och den går ut i blodet och till olika typer av vävnader, som hjärtat, nervsystemet och leder. Det tredje steget är vad vi kan kalla en kronisk eller ihärdig sjukdom – vilket egentligen är ett ovanligt tillstånd, dvs det är endast ett fåtal patienter som får en kronisk Lyme-borrelios. Om man behandlar med antibiotika under de båda första stadierna kommer i de flesta fallen infektionen att försvinna. Men om man inte behandlar kan den givetvis gå genom alla de tre faserna och bli just kronisk.

In English (translated with google translate and partly by me):
What is Lyme disease then? The answer has to do with what is chronic and not chronic. We can speak of three steps: The first is a local infection around the tick bite, the next step is the bacteria more widespread in the body and it goes into the blood and to different types of tissues like the heart, nervous system and joints. The third step is what we can call a chronic or persistent illness - which is basically a rare condition, ie there are only a few patients that get chronic Lyme disease. If we treat with antibiotics during the first two phases will, in most cases, the infection disappear. But if you do not treat it can of course go through all three phases and be just chronic.

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Re: The original definition of chronic (Lyme) borreliosis

Post by X-member » Sun 5 Mar 2017 18:58

Borrelia burgdorferi (Lyme Disease)
Eugene D. Shapiro


http://pedsinreview.aappublications.org ... 2/500.full

A quote:
There is no evidence that chronic Lyme disease exists.
Maybe the persons on the link below can help him?

Doxycycline versus ceftriaxone for the treatment of patients with chronic Lyme borreliosis.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17160610

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Re: The original definition of chronic (Lyme) borreliosis

Post by X-member » Sun 5 Mar 2017 19:03

Chronic Lyme; diagnostic and therapeutic challenges.
Ljøstad U1, Mygland Å.


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23190290

A quote:
Chronic Lyme is a rare condition caused by long-lasting and ongoing infection with the spirochete Borrelia burgdorferi (Bb).

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Re: The original definition of chronic (Lyme) borreliosis

Post by X-member » Thu 11 May 2017 20:08

Chronic Lyme Disease: A Working Case Definition
Stricker RB* and Fesler MC


Published: May 03, 2017

http://austinpublishinggroup.com/chroni ... -first.php

A quote:
To qualify for the diagnosis of CLD, patients must have Lyme-compatible symptoms and signs that are either consistently or variably present for six or more months.

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Re: The original definition of chronic (Lyme) borreliosis

Post by X-member » Fri 16 Jun 2017 15:13

Chronic or Late Lyme Neuroborreliosis: Analysis of Evidence Compared to Chronic or Late Neurosyphilis
Judith Miklossy*


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3551238/

A quote:
Importantly, the existence of late Lyme disease is approved by all official guidelines in the U.S., Canada and Europe. The terms “late” and “chronic” Lyme disease, as in syphilis, are synonymous and define tertiary Lyme disease [20, 125]. The use of “chronic” Lyme disease as a different entity is inaccurate and confusing.

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Re: The original definition of chronic (Lyme) borreliosis

Post by X-member » Wed 21 Jun 2017 1:16

Flåttsenteret (The tick center) Norway.

Borreliose (Borreliosis)

http://xn--flttsenteret-ucb.no/sykdomme ... orreliose/

A (partly) google translated quote:
The term "chronic borreliosis" is used differently in different environments. Medical professional environment uses the term for stage 3 of the disease, ie an untreated Borrelia infection for at least 6 months. Six months is a common limit for counting a disease as chronic. In such cases, the borrelia bacterium is still active in the body.

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Re: The original definition of chronic (Lyme) borreliosis

Post by X-member » Fri 23 Jun 2017 17:57

“Chronic Lyme” VIP Daniel Cameron disciplined by New York medical authorities

https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/chroni ... thorities/

A quote:
The CDC, the Infectious Diseases Society of America (IDSA), the American Academy of Pediatrics, the American College of Physicians, the Medical Letter and the American Academy of Neurology all reject the notion that “chronic Lyme” exists and that long-term antibiotics are an appropriate treatment.
Well, if all this (US) infectious diseases doctors are soo darn sure that late Lyme disease/late (Lyme) borreliosis don't exists....(see the previous posts in this thread)...perhaps it is time to remove late (stage) Lyme disease from IDSA:s guidelines?

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Re: The original definition of chronic (Lyme) borreliosis

Post by X-member » Sat 28 Jul 2018 0:01

Chronic Lyme disease (Wikipedia)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronic_Lyme_disease

A quote:
Chronic Lyme disease (not to be confused with Lyme disease) is a generally rejected diagnosis that encompasses "a broad array of illnesses or symptom complexes for which there is no reproducible or convincing scientific evidence of any relationship to Borrelia burgdorferi infection."[1] Despite numerous studies, there is no clinical evidence that "chronic" Lyme disease is caused by a persistent infection.[2]
Perhaps Dr Halperin, IDSA can help those confused persons that obviously don't belong to the medical/scientific community who have written the text above.

Chronic Lyme disease: misconceptions and challenges for patient management
John J Halperin


http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4440423/

A quote:
The medical/scientific community uses the term “chronic Lyme disease” to describe individuals with objective evidence of longstanding ongoing infection.....

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