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Healing by Colloidal silver,olive leaf extract,teasel

Post by Yvonne » Fri 25 Jun 2010 9:43

https://www.thieme-connect.com/ejournal ... 28-1082631
Abstract
Persistent borreliosis nearly never can be healed with antibiotics any longer. Colloidal silver alone, administered in the correct dose for one to three years, resulted in healing in half of my 45 cases. For the remainder olive leaf extract, in a very few cases additionally teasel, had to be added. With this medication even the few disease cases which had a more destructive course can also be healed. These agents may only be discontinued when the kinesiologic test is negative.
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Re: Healing by Colloidal silver,olive leaf extract,teasel

Post by rlstanley » Sat 26 Jun 2010 20:16

See :

Fraudulent products and/or services that have been successfully prosecuted. http://www.lymeneteurope.org/forum/view ... =12&t=2038

Colloidal Silver - The FDA and FTC have identified firms that marketed Colloidal Silver as a cure, treatment, or prevention of serious diseases. As part of Cure.All, the FDA identified forty-eight (48) Web sites that made serious drug claims for Colloidal Silver, as well as a number of other products. The FDA sent these Web sites Cyber Letters, untitled letters sent via electronic mail, informing them that their products were being promoted for conditions that may cause the products to be considered drugs and therefore may be in violation of the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetics Act. Twenty-seven percent of the sites complied by removing or changing the violative claims.

Real Concerns About Colloidal Silver : http://www.lymeneteurope.org/info/real- ... dal-silver

Colloidal Silver- Its Not Easy Being Blue: http://www.lymeneteurope.org/forum/view ... ?f=7&t=454

Colloidal Silver: Risk Without Benefit: http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRel ... verad.html

Goggle "Colloidal silver scam": http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=n ... ilver+scam
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Re: Healing by Colloidal silver,olive leaf extract,teasel

Post by johnholland » Thu 6 Jun 2013 18:26

Incredible that all the big pharma companies (and the people representing them, yes Tom Grier, either ignorant or involved) still keep the lies alive that colloidal silver is an ineffective agent.

Just some recent abstracts:
"In the experimental study obtained with chemical method colloid solution of nanoparticles (NPs) of silver (Ag) and a composite on his base in the matrix of finely dispersed silica with particle size of 8-12 nm and NPs concentration in basic solution of 0,0016% (0,016 mg/cm3) were established to exhibit high antimicrobial activity against the test organisms: E. coli, P. aeruginosa, S. Aureus and C. Albicans, which depended on a set of factors. Antibacterial properties of tissue impregnated with Ag-NPs were studied. As stabilizing substances a mixture of surface-active substance sodium dodecyl sulfate and polymer polyvinylpyrrolidone was used Before the beginning of the study effective neutralizer was tailored. Times of preservation of antimicrobial activity of test samples have been established, and also their stability throughout long term of supervision (24 months) has been shown. Effect of organic pollution on antimicrobal activity of the samples has been studied. Based on obtained results the algorithm of the study of antimicrobial properties of nanopreparations has been elaborated."
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23458001

"The emergence and spread of antibiotic-resistant Neisseria gonorrhoeae has led to difficulties in treating patients, and novel strategies to prevent and treat this infection are urgently needed. Here, we examined 21 different nanomaterials for their potential activity against N. gonorrhoeae (ATCC 49226). Silver nanoparticles (Ag NPs, 120 nm) showed the greatest potency for reducing N. gonorrhoeae colony formation (MIC: 12.5 µg/ml) and possessed the dominant influence on the antibacterial activity with their properties of the nanoparticles within a concentration range that did not induce cytotoxicity in human fibroblasts or epithelial cells. Electron microscopy revealed that the Ag NPs significantly reduced bacterial cell membrane integrity. Furthermore, the use of clinical isolates of multidrug-resistant N. gonorrhoeae showed that combined treatment with 120 nm Ag NPs and cefmetazole produced additive effects. This is the first report to screen the effectiveness of nanomaterials against N. gonorrhoeae, and our results indicate that 120 nm Ag NPs deliver low levels of toxicity to human epithelial cells and could be used as an adjuvant with antibiotic therapy, either for topical use or as a coating for biomaterials, to prevent or treat multidrug-resistant N. gonorrhoeae."
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23705013

"Silver nanoparticles possess antibacterial effect for various bacteria; however mechanisms of the interaction between Ag-NPs and bacterial cells remain unclear. The aim of our study was to obtain direct evidence of Ag-NPs penetration into cells of Gram-negative bacterium S. typhimurium and Gram-positive bacterium S. aureus, and to study cell responses to Ag-NPs. The Ag-NPs (most 8-10 nm) were obtained by gas-jet method. S. typhimurium (7.81 × 107 CFU), or S. aureus (8.96 × 107 CFU) were treated by Ag-NPs (0.05 mg/l of silver) in orbital shaker at 190 rpm, 37 °C. Bacteria were sampled at 0.5, 1, 1.5, 2, 5 and 23 h of the incubation for transmission electron microscopy of ultrathin sections. The Ag-NPs adsorbed on outer membrane of S. typhimurium and cell wall of S. auereus; penetrated and accumulated in cells without aggregation and damaging of neighboring cytoplasm. In cells of S. aureus Ag-NPs bound with DNA fibers. Cell responses to Ag-NPs differed morphologically in S. typhimurium and S. aureus, and mainly were presented by damage of cell structures. The cytoplasm of S. aureus became amorphous, while S. typhimurium showed lumping and lysis of cytoplasm which led to formation of "empty" cells. Other difference was fast change of cell shape in S. typhimurium, and late deformation of S. aureus cells. The obtained results showed how different could be responses induced by the same NPs in relatively simple prokaryotic cells. Evidently, Ag-NPs directly interact with macromolecular structures of living cells and are exert an active influence on their metabolism."
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23686387

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Re: Healing by Colloidal silver,olive leaf extract,teasel

Post by Camp Other » Fri 7 Jun 2013 22:02

johnholland wrote:Incredible that all the big pharma companies (and the people representing them, yes Tom Grier, either ignorant or involved) still keep the lies alive that colloidal silver is an ineffective agent.

Just some recent abstracts:
"In the experimental study obtained with chemical method colloid solution of nanoparticles (NPs) of silver (Ag) and a composite on his base in the matrix of finely dispersed silica with particle size of 8-12 nm and NPs concentration in basic solution of 0,0016% (0,016 mg/cm3) were established to exhibit high antimicrobial activity against the test organisms: E. coli, P. aeruginosa, S. Aureus and C. Albicans, which depended on a set of factors. Antibacterial properties of tissue impregnated with Ag-NPs were studied. As stabilizing substances a mixture of surface-active substance sodium dodecyl sulfate and polymer polyvinylpyrrolidone was used Before the beginning of the study effective neutralizer was tailored. Times of preservation of antimicrobial activity of test samples have been established, and also their stability throughout long term of supervision (24 months) has been shown. Effect of organic pollution on antimicrobal activity of the samples has been studied. Based on obtained results the algorithm of the study of antimicrobial properties of nanopreparations has been elaborated."
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23458001

"The emergence and spread of antibiotic-resistant Neisseria gonorrhoeae has led to difficulties in treating patients, and novel strategies to prevent and treat this infection are urgently needed. Here, we examined 21 different nanomaterials for their potential activity against N. gonorrhoeae (ATCC 49226). Silver nanoparticles (Ag NPs, 120 nm) showed the greatest potency for reducing N. gonorrhoeae colony formation (MIC: 12.5 µg/ml) and possessed the dominant influence on the antibacterial activity with their properties of the nanoparticles within a concentration range that did not induce cytotoxicity in human fibroblasts or epithelial cells. Electron microscopy revealed that the Ag NPs significantly reduced bacterial cell membrane integrity. Furthermore, the use of clinical isolates of multidrug-resistant N. gonorrhoeae showed that combined treatment with 120 nm Ag NPs and cefmetazole produced additive effects. This is the first report to screen the effectiveness of nanomaterials against N. gonorrhoeae, and our results indicate that 120 nm Ag NPs deliver low levels of toxicity to human epithelial cells and could be used as an adjuvant with antibiotic therapy, either for topical use or as a coating for biomaterials, to prevent or treat multidrug-resistant N. gonorrhoeae."
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23705013

"Silver nanoparticles possess antibacterial effect for various bacteria; however mechanisms of the interaction between Ag-NPs and bacterial cells remain unclear. The aim of our study was to obtain direct evidence of Ag-NPs penetration into cells of Gram-negative bacterium S. typhimurium and Gram-positive bacterium S. aureus, and to study cell responses to Ag-NPs. The Ag-NPs (most 8-10 nm) were obtained by gas-jet method. S. typhimurium (7.81 × 107 CFU), or S. aureus (8.96 × 107 CFU) were treated by Ag-NPs (0.05 mg/l of silver) in orbital shaker at 190 rpm, 37 °C. Bacteria were sampled at 0.5, 1, 1.5, 2, 5 and 23 h of the incubation for transmission electron microscopy of ultrathin sections. The Ag-NPs adsorbed on outer membrane of S. typhimurium and cell wall of S. auereus; penetrated and accumulated in cells without aggregation and damaging of neighboring cytoplasm. In cells of S. aureus Ag-NPs bound with DNA fibers. Cell responses to Ag-NPs differed morphologically in S. typhimurium and S. aureus, and mainly were presented by damage of cell structures. The cytoplasm of S. aureus became amorphous, while S. typhimurium showed lumping and lysis of cytoplasm which led to formation of "empty" cells. Other difference was fast change of cell shape in S. typhimurium, and late deformation of S. aureus cells. The obtained results showed how different could be responses induced by the same NPs in relatively simple prokaryotic cells. Evidently, Ag-NPs directly interact with macromolecular structures of living cells and are exert an active influence on their metabolism."
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23686387
Silver is an antimicrobial and it has been safely used impregnated into bandages for use on burn victims and for treating wounds and coating implants. This use, however, is different from internally taking colloidal silver, which has shown to have increased cytotoxicity and can have a negative effect including kidney damage.

Using silver in nanotechnology to fight infection may be a good idea, but it does require more research and has to lead to a targeted attack on bacteria which is also low in cyotoxicity for people taking it. Using it this way is very different from the methods alternative medicine has promoted - generally less targeted and higher doses of silver used over long periods of time which tend to lead to damage.

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Re: Healing by Colloidal silver,olive leaf extract,teasel

Post by johnholland » Sat 8 Jun 2013 14:17

Camp Other wrote:
Silver is an antimicrobial and it has been safely used impregnated into bandages for use on burn victims and for treating wounds and coating implants. This use, however, is different from internally taking colloidal silver, which has shown to have increased cytotoxicity and can have a negative effect including kidney damage.

Using silver in nanotechnology to fight infection may be a good idea, but it does require more research and has to lead to a targeted attack on bacteria which is also low in cyotoxicity for people taking it. Using it this way is very different from the methods alternative medicine has promoted - generally less targeted and higher doses of silver used over long periods of time which tend to lead to damage.
Sounds like a standard response from western medicine.

"My dad takes colloidal silver for his health, but is it safe?

Answer
from Brent A. Bauer, M.D.

Colloidal silver isn't considered safe or effective for any of the health claims manufacturers make. Silver has no known purpose in the body. Nor is it an essential mineral, as some sellers of silver products claim.

Colloidal silver products are made of tiny silver particles suspended in a liquid — the same type of precious metal used in jewelry, dental fillings, silverware and other consumer goods. Colloidal silver products are usually marketed as dietary supplements that are taken by mouth. Colloidal silver products also come in forms to be injected or applied to the skin.

Manufacturers of colloidal silver products often claim that they are cure-alls, boosting your immune system, fighting bacteria and viruses, and treating cancer, HIV/AIDS, shingles, herpes, eye ailments and prostatitis. However, no sound scientific studies to evaluate these health claims have been published in reputable medical journals. In fact, the Food and Drug Administration has taken action against some manufacturers of colloidal silver products for making unproven health claims.

It's not clear how much colloidal silver may be harmful, but it can build up in your body's tissues over months or years. Most commonly, this results in argyria (ahr-JIR-e-uh), a blue-gray discoloration of your skin, eyes, internal organs, nails and gums. While argyria doesn't pose a serious health problem, it can be a cosmetic concern because it doesn't go away when you stop taking silver products.

Rarely, excessive doses of colloidal silver can cause possibly irreversible serious health problems, including kidney damage and neurological problems such as seizures. Colloidal silver products may also interact with medications, including penicillamine, quinolone, tetracycline and thyroxine medications."

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/colloi ... er/AN01682

Problem is that almost ALL research is funded by the pharma industry which has 100% intrest in keeping cheap medicine out of reach. Typical that countries that don't have a big pharma lobby can do the research but us, "the civilised/ Western world" cannot do it. Money rules the world and will rule it in the future, sadly.

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Re: Healing by Colloidal silver,olive leaf extract,teasel

Post by Camp Other » Sat 8 Jun 2013 22:04

johnholland wrote:
Camp Other wrote:
Silver is an antimicrobial and it has been safely used impregnated into bandages for use on burn victims and for treating wounds and coating implants. This use, however, is different from internally taking colloidal silver, which has shown to have increased cytotoxicity and can have a negative effect including kidney damage.

Using silver in nanotechnology to fight infection may be a good idea, but it does require more research and has to lead to a targeted attack on bacteria which is also low in cyotoxicity for people taking it. Using it this way is very different from the methods alternative medicine has promoted - generally less targeted and higher doses of silver used over long periods of time which tend to lead to damage.
Sounds like a standard response from western medicine.
I disagree.

Please back up and re-read what I said, because what you're cited below kinda misses my point?
"My dad takes colloidal silver for his health, but is it safe?

Answer
from Brent A. Bauer, M.D.

Colloidal silver isn't considered safe or effective for any of the health claims manufacturers make. Silver has no known purpose in the body. Nor is it an essential mineral, as some sellers of silver products claim.

Colloidal silver products are made of tiny silver particles suspended in a liquid — the same type of precious metal used in jewelry, dental fillings, silverware and other consumer goods. Colloidal silver products are usually marketed as dietary supplements that are taken by mouth. Colloidal silver products also come in forms to be injected or applied to the skin.

Manufacturers of colloidal silver products often claim that they are cure-alls, boosting your immune system, fighting bacteria and viruses, and treating cancer, HIV/AIDS, shingles, herpes, eye ailments and prostatitis. However, no sound scientific studies to evaluate these health claims have been published in reputable medical journals. In fact, the Food and Drug Administration has taken action against some manufacturers of colloidal silver products for making unproven health claims.

It's not clear how much colloidal silver may be harmful, but it can build up in your body's tissues over months or years. Most commonly, this results in argyria (ahr-JIR-e-uh), a blue-gray discoloration of your skin, eyes, internal organs, nails and gums. While argyria doesn't pose a serious health problem, it can be a cosmetic concern because it doesn't go away when you stop taking silver products.

Rarely, excessive doses of colloidal silver can cause possibly irreversible serious health problems, including kidney damage and neurological problems such as seizures. Colloidal silver products may also interact with medications, including penicillamine, quinolone, tetracycline and thyroxine medications."

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/colloi ... er/AN01682

Problem is that almost ALL research is funded by the pharma industry which has 100% intrest in keeping cheap medicine out of reach. Typical that countries that don't have a big pharma lobby can do the research but us, "the civilised/ Western world" cannot do it. Money rules the world and will rule it in the future, sadly.
What I said above is that silver HAS been proven to be a useful and effective antimicrobial. Dr. Bauer isn't exactly right concerning his claims, because silver is used in medicine quite effectively for specific purposes - though I would agree it is not a cure-all.

What matters is how it is applied and the dosage.

Consuming oral colloidal silver at high doses is sort of like the difference between using an antibiotic which firebombs your microbiota so all the good helpful bacteria are gone along with the bad bacteria and using phage therapy to target one specific kind of bacteria to wipe it out without killing good helpful bacteria.

So why not push for effective silver treatments which are more like phage therapy and less like broad spectrum antibiotics?

I understand wanting to put power in the hands of the patient and give patients more options without big pharma being involved. When you're sick and feel like utter crap, you don't want to wait for research to give you answers and may not trust all the research out there. I get it, I've been there myself.

But for me, having someone independently research a treatment who isn't big pharma but knowledgable and concerned about safety and efficacy is valuable to me because I want objective evidence of possible risks and benefits before I try something and not just to rely on another patient's experience with something - where at all possible.

Personally, if silver nanotechnology improved the effectiveness of treatment and lowered risks, I would be willing to try it.

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Re: Healing by Colloidal silver,olive leaf extract,teasel

Post by johnholland » Mon 10 Jun 2013 19:33

I use CS IM for almost 2 years now. Turned out to be the miracle drug for me. Oral ingestion had no effect. In 2 years I did something like 230 injections of 7ml colloidal silver (30ppm). I can understand you want independent research to back this effectiveness against borrelia up but in my case it really wasnt an option. Further are side effects unlikely unless you consume huge amounts of CS/use home made CS.

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