Cured of Lyme in 60 days!

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Sonia
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Re: Cured of Lyme in 60 days!

Post by Sonia » Mon 1 Feb 2016 7:16

This is my feedback.

After 60 days on this protocol, it seemed like the symptoms were gone.
After 77 day, I decided to finish the protocol.
A week later, symptoms come back, they were worse then when I started the protocol.
I am sorry to disappoint some of you, who want to start this protocol.

It did not work for me.
However, according to Will, it did work for him.

Wishing all of you, a better health.

Sub-Lyme Destruction
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Re: Cured of Lyme in 60 days!

Post by Sub-Lyme Destruction » Mon 1 Feb 2016 15:36

Sonia I am truly sorry to hear that your symptoms persisted.
My thoughts are with you, stay strong.
Perhaps there are some underlying issues as a result of co-infections which developed as a result of the Lyme bacteria?
Will may not have developed any co-infections, or if he did he may not have developed the same ones as you, and therefore there may be additional steps required to fully treat your own specific case.
I can tell you that a few years after I found my two bullseye tick bites I began to get sicker and sicker with each winter and eventually I developed a severe chest infection which turned into pneumonia yet I stubbornly waited almost 6 months to see a doctor. As a result of this I believe I developed scar tissue on my lungs which has not only forever seriously effected my voice but also gives me a recurring infection every single winter since, (about 15 years now) which persists for just about the entire winter here in NJ. Approx. 4 months.
(Incidentally all this time I was still not aware that I had Lyme. It was a few years later that I came across the bullseye description and immediately recalled my leg bites. The bullseye rashes were that bizarre looking to me).
I believe there is a chance that I may have pockets of infection which are located in extremely hard-to-reach areas. Areas where my blood isn't able to reach with antibiotics. If true i believe my infection "persists" year-round and never, truly, "fully" goes away.
I feel I may need to find a way to "special deliver" the antibiotics to these areas. For this I am assuming a bronchoscopy is in order?
My point is that even if this protocol helps cure my Lyme I am still concerned that this chronic bronchitis I have developed may persist without the help of perhaps i.v. antibiotics.
Do you think there may be a chance that you still have some different, persisting co-infection which is mimicking some of the symptoms of the Lyme? An infection in an area of the body where it may be difficult for your blood to reach?

"I feel this is an issue that needs to be addressed regardless, btw. There are areas in the body where oral antibiotics cannot always reach. If some of the co-infections caused by Lyme share this characteristic, then people may very well be curing their Lyme but suffering from chronic infections such as bronchitis. In my personal experience, some of the symptoms of, say, severe chronic bronchitis can mimic those of Lyme."

Can you share with us exactly what your protocol was? Did you use the wild cherry bark extract as the ancillary/immune booster or perhaps the peach or apricot pit/almond? I feel the fact that symptoms disapeared for Will and all but disappeared for you (even if only while on the protocol), means that there may be a good chance that Will is at least on to something.
I mean if he wasn't on to something then I really wouldn't expect a change in your symptoms at all. Clearly boosting the immune system is at least helping (even if only temporarily.)
Basically what I am asking is did you use the exact methods that Will used and if so please specify what dosages.
So if you went with the wild cherry bark extract then which brand?
In my research I found that some companies use less then pure ingredients in the extract and some of the so called "extracts" turned out to be syrups. As this is an absolutely crucial part to the protocol I just want to cover it.
Have you been diagnosed with Lyme by a doctor? Self diagnosed?

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Re: Cured of Lyme in 60 days!

Post by Sub-Lyme Destruction » Mon 1 Feb 2016 20:22

So sorry I see your other posts now and I recall your dosages.
I wish you had not taken anything with your protocol. Betain hcl and probiotics. Did you know probiotics have been known to cause severe side effects and infections when used by people with a compromised immune system? You have Lyme lol. Also unless you were diagnosed with hypochlorhydria I don't think it was a good idea to add hydrochloric acid with a self diagnosis.
Not while taking delicate antibiotics.
If self diagnosed, I hope you didn't use the beetroot test. I don't know anyone why doesn't poo red after eating beets! Lol.
I tell you what, I am going to try the protocol myself as son as it arrives. If it works for me, I will make sure you have the resourcees to obtain another round of antibiotics. This time though, you have to promise to use the protocol and ONLY the protocol. I'm serious about everything I just said.
Now with that said, let me just say that I certainly hope it works for me so that we can try it again in you. I know what life is like with this "thing". It is awful. I wouldn't wish it on anyone.
Keep hope alive and stay strong Sonia!

Sub-Lyme Destruction
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Re: Cured of Lyme in 60 days!

Post by Sub-Lyme Destruction » Tue 2 Feb 2016 4:21

Will Wiegman I wanted to share a treatment with everyone here that I have been following for quite a few years and if you were perhaps unaware of the advances being made then I think you will certainly my find this interesting. Perhaps you can post it on the American version of this site? I have been meaning to join it but I forgot the name. Anyway here's to you sir-
You are perhaps familiar with fecal microbial transplantation? Basically it is an enema or a colonoscopy done with another extremely healthy persons bacteria
(in the form of yes, their poo).
It is even in pill form now although difficult to obtain and expensive.

http://www.openbiome.org/press-releases ... sing-study

I know this is gross sounding but I have surfed this website and I have no doubt that the members here are open minded enough and intelligent enough to handle this information.
This is not some shady-scam-type deal and it is not some
new-age holistic hippie witch doctor stuff either. This is not only a proven treatment for C. difficile colitis, it is the best treatment by far. The strongest antibiotics cure it only 40-50% of the time whereas FMT completely cures it 80%-90% of the time.
That was not a misprint.
It is starting to appear that FMT is drastically improving many more disorders including metabolic diseases, neuropsychiatric disorders, autoimmune diseases, allergic disorders, and tumors.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4284325/
I will include multiple links all are legitimate and informative. This is only a tiny sample of the information out there.
I honestly feel that this type of treatment to balance the flora of unhealthy individuals is going to cause a paradigm shift in how we treat disorders in the future. But for now you don't need thousands of dollars to do this treatment.
If you decide to do it at home make sure the donor is not overweight as apparently that effect will crossover to you and you will gain a lot of that persons weight.
I hope these links are ok to post I don't see why they wouldn't be. If for some reason I can't then I will repost with all the information minus the links.

lol.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3491681/

http://www.healingwell.com/community/de ... &m=3477209

http://m.hopkinsmedicine.org/gastroente ... ation.html

This shows you how powerful it truly is. Btw I looked the girls picture up on Facebook and she is thin again! Absolutely crazy. You won't even believe this..

http://phenomena.nationalgeographic.com ... /fmt-film/

Sub-Lyme Destruction
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Re: Cured of Lyme in 60 days!

Post by Sub-Lyme Destruction » Tue 2 Feb 2016 4:23

Just to be clear when I said I was following the treatment I did not mean that I was participating in it I meant that I was keeping tabs on it lol. I do not have any first-hand knowledge of this treatment.
Keep hope alive Lymies!
Just made that up I hope it doesn't offend anyone lol.

Tubzy
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Re: Cured of Lyme in 60 days!

Post by Tubzy » Tue 2 Feb 2016 5:42

Sonia wrote:This is my feedback.

After 60 days on this protocol, it seemed like the symptoms were gone.
After 77 day, I decided to finish the protocol.
A week later, symptoms come back, they were worse then when I started the protocol.
I am sorry to disappoint some of you, who want to start this protocol.

It did not work for me.
However, according to Will, it did work for him.

Wishing all of you, a better health.
Are you sure you got legit antibiotics? You mentioned you were getting it from generic Indian pharmacy, correct? Have you tested any of their products in the past? I ordered mine from indian pharm but I have tested their other products and know they are legit..e.g. cialis, viagra etc.

Sonia
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Re: Cured of Lyme in 60 days!

Post by Sonia » Fri 5 Feb 2016 7:24

Hi Sub-Lime,
I have been on Cowden's protocol for 2 years ( before I started Will's protocol).
So my immune system is quite good.
My body is detoxed by Cowden's protocol.
Pinella is a part of Cowden's protocol (and part of Will's protocol).
Before I started Will's protocol, my Lyme was under control, but not cured.
Cowden's protocol is very good, but it does not heal Lyme on its own.
It keeps Lyme disease only under control, so you are able to work and function.

When I started Will's protocol I have followed his instruction including: Pinella, Apricot kernels (every day) and Wild Cherry Barke sometimes.

Will said, "For 'Brain Fog' you will need the amygdalin in the form of 10 drops of Wild Cherry Bark extract or the seeds of one apple every other day or 10 drops of Pinella or two or three apricot kernels. All of these contain trace amounts of amygdalin.".

The Co-Infections are common in Lyme disease.
The cause of Lyme disease is Borrelia bacteria.
Bartonella is one of the common co-infection, and Bebesia as well.
However, there are more others which can be present as well (as co-infections).
Very rare Lyme sufferers have only Borrelia.

I have Lyme disease over 5 years.
Enough long to recognise the Symptoms.
I was perfectly healthy 6 years ago,

It will be good to see your results.
Take details every day: symptoms, supplements, AB, and what you consumed.
I hope you will have the same results as Will.
If you become cured from Lyme, it will give hope to the others.
So, wishing you all the best (for your sake and for the sake of other sufferers).

Tubzy
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Re: Cured of Lyme in 60 days!

Post by Tubzy » Fri 5 Feb 2016 15:37

Sonia wrote:Hi Sub-Lime,
I have been on Cowden's protocol for 2 years ( before I started Will's protocol).
So my immune system is quite good.
My body is detoxed by Cowden's protocol.
Pinella is a part of Cowden's protocol (and part of Will's protocol).
Before I started Will's protocol, my Lyme was under control, but not cured.
Cowden's protocol is very good, but it does not heal Lyme on its own.
It keeps Lyme disease only under control, so you are able to work and function.

When I started Will's protocol I have followed his instruction including: Pinella, Apricot kernels (every day) and Wild Cherry Barke sometimes.

Will said, "For 'Brain Fog' you will need the amygdalin in the form of 10 drops of Wild Cherry Bark extract or the seeds of one apple every other day or 10 drops of Pinella or two or three apricot kernels. All of these contain trace amounts of amygdalin.".

The Co-Infections are common in Lyme disease.
The cause of Lyme disease is Borrelia bacteria.
Bartonella is one of the common co-infection, and Bebesia as well.
However, there are more others which can be present as well (as co-infections).
Very rare Lyme sufferers have only Borrelia.

I have Lyme disease over 5 years.
Enough long to recognise the Symptoms.
I was perfectly healthy 6 years ago,

It will be good to see your results.
Take details every day: symptoms, supplements, AB, and what you consumed.
I hope you will have the same results as Will.
If you become cured from Lyme, it will give hope to the others.
So, wishing you all the best (for your sake and for the sake of other sufferers).
Did you go through a herx at all and did u notice anything from starting it like a change in symptoms at all? I think I'm still going through a herx since I started.

Tubzy
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Re: Cured of Lyme in 60 days!

Post by Tubzy » Thu 11 Feb 2016 22:54

FYI I got in touch with Will. If you weigh in the range of 200 pounds male (like me) you need to raise your dose or essentially double it which I just started on Monday. I don't think he officially developed his dosing chart but I reached out and just assumed and it seems I was right. So I'm doing 200/500 now...Will keep you posted. I just hope my antibiotics are legit (international drug Mart) it's always a gamble ordering online but over the past month most notably the past week I have had a bad increase in symptoms ...very bad insomnia and on and off night sweats which reminded me when I first got Lyme. Hope that is a good sign as I'm still in the 3-5 week window when the big herx is suppose to occur....I feel like crap now this whole past week feel terrible..I haven't been even to make it to train at the gym..hoping to make some improvements soon...

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